APOLOGY TO THE WORLD

I stumbled across this letter today, written by Doug Perry – and it made me cry.  In a deep, convicted sort of way.  🙂

Dear Members of the World,

I’m just a guy, nobody really. Son of a preacher and missionary. Years and years of Vacation Bible Schools, summer camps, youth ski trips, puppet shows, revivals, choir trips – you name it. Even went to a Christian college and got a degree in religion. I ended up in the business world, but I spent two decades tithing, sitting on committees, teaching Sunday School, going to seminars and conferences, etc. I even met my wife in the singles class at church. I’m not a bad guy, I’ve been mostly behaving myself and everybody seems to like me. I do some good stuff here and there.

But lately I’ve been trying to understand Jesus more and stuff I never noticed before has really started to bug me. I’ve been taking a look around and I’m having a hard time making sense of what it is we’ve built here. So, it just seemed like, whether anybody else says it or not, I need to take responsibility for the part I played and say what I have to say.

Here we go … 

I know you think that Christians are a big bunch of hypocrites. We say we’re more “religious” and we’re going to heaven and you’re not, and then we drive our big shiny cars with little fishies on the trunk and cut you off in traffic as we race by the homeless guy on the corner. We average just 2% of our money to church and charity, despite that we say the Bible is the word of God and it says we’re supposed to give everything. On average, we buy just as many big screen TVs and bass boats and fur coats and makeup and baseball cards and online porn as anybody else. Maybe more. You’ve seen leader after leader end up in jail or court or a sex scandal of one sort or another.

Well … you’re right. We’re guilty of all of it. We’ve done it all. And, I’m really sorry. 

You see our cheesy TV shows and slick guys begging for money and you get that there’s something seriously sneaky and wrong here. A high-pressure call for money so they can stay on the air? Were we supposed to use Jesus as just another form of entertainment? Who do we think we’re kidding? Where’s Jesus in all this? Aren’t we supposed to rely on him? Isn’t He going to meet our needs if we’re inside His will?

What happened to sacrifice and suffering and helping the poor? I’m just sick about this. I mean, the church leaders, they’re not all bad guys, there are lots and lots of really hard-working well-meaning folks who love and care and are meeting real needs in the community. Some of them understand and love Jesus – but I’m just real sure those pastors don’t drive Bentley’s, have multi-million dollar homes and their own lear jets! I mean, what “god” are we worshipping? Money? Ego? Power?

You see our massive shiny new buildings all over the place. Heck, maybe we even kicked you out of your house so we could expand our parking lots. You can’t figure out why we need four different Christian churches on four corners of the same intersection. We’ve got playgrounds and bowling alleys and basketball leagues. We’ve got Starbucks coffee in the sanctuary. We’ve got orchestras and giant chandeliers and fountains out front. We’ve got bookstores full of “jesus junk” with every imaginable style and flavor of religious knick-knack. But where’s Jesus? Is this what HE wanted?

Oh, sure, there are good folks all over and not every church is such a mess, but Christians are the ones that say we’re supposed to be “One Body.” So even the good ones are guilty of not putting a stop to it sooner. We were supposed to keep each other in line and not tolerate factions and dissensions and greed and idolatry and all this other bad stuff. Man, we really blew it! We’ve got 33,000 denominations and most of them won’t talk to the other ones. We lose over $5 million a day to fraud from “trusted” people inside the church! We spend 95% of all our money on our own comforts and programs and happy family fun time shows and we let 250 MILLION Christians in other countries live on the very edge of starvation. Not to mention the billion or so that have never even once heard of Jesus – or the homeless guy downtown we almost ran over when we cut you off.

We’re as guilty as we can be. All of us. Nobody is exempt. We should have put a stop to it a lot sooner. But I can’t apologize on behalf of anyone else. This is about me.

I know that you might have gone to church as a kid and stopped going as soon as you could. I know that you might even have been abused by somebody in the church! Maybe we got you all fired up and then just let you drift off like we didn’t really care. Maybe you just don’t fit our “profile.” You might have piercings and purple hair or tattoos or been in jail — and somewhere inside you just know that even if you wanted to go to church one Sunday, it would not go well. I’m sorry for that. Jesus loves you. He always hung out with the most unexpected people. He had the biggest heart for the folks everybody else tried to ignore. What have we done? We’ve told you to put on a sweater and some loafers or you can’t go to heaven. I just want to throw up.

Look, I know you’re mad. And you have a right to be. We’ve done you wrong for a LONG time now. There’s some things about Jesus that people need to hear, but we’ve buried a beautiful masterpiece under hundreds of layers of soft pink latex paint. If you have a Bible handy, look up Matthew 23. (If you don’t, you can look it up here – http://www.BibleGateway.com .) Find it? Read it carefully, the Pharisees were the “religious” people of the day, the leaders of the faith. In this chapter Jesus SEVEN times says how pitiful and wretched and cursed they are for what they’re doing to the people they’re supposed to be leading. He even calls them “white washed tombs of dead mens bones” and a “brood of vipers”! I don’t have time here, but read it and see if we’re not doing EVERY single one of those things. Jesus can’t possibly be happy about what we’ve done to you.

Sure, we like to kid ourselves and pretend everything is OK – but it’s not. We’re hated. Now, please understand, Jesus was hated, too. But that was because he said hard things and sometimes people don’t like hearing the Truth. And he promised we would be hated if we were like him. But that’s not why we’re hated at the moment. We’re hated right now because we’re a giant pack of lying hypocrites that say one thing and do something else altogether. If we were hated because we were like Jesus, that would be one thing, but that’s not it at all. You see right through our happy music and fluffy services and you can tell there’s something desperately wrong here. We’re no different than anybody else – except that we say we’re better than you.

It was never supposed to be like this. Jesus asked us to care for the widows and orphans, to feed the hungry, care for the sick, visit those in prison, reach the lost. He wanted us to love our enemies and pray for them. He cared about human justice and suffering, the lost and lonely.  But I don’t think He would have marched on a picket line – He had His mind on much bigger problems. He wanted us to focus on the eternal things, not the everyday. He never once said to go into all the world and build big buildings and divide up into factions and buy Bentleys. Just the opposite! I get that you’re mad at us and I think you have a right to be, but please understand, you’re mad at what we’ve made under our own power, you’re mad at “Churchianity.” That’s different than Christ and what He wanted. Don’t be mad at Jesus! This mess wasn’t His idea!

Look, I’m really sorry. I accept responsibility for my part in having hurt you. But I’m committing to you all, dear Members of the World, that I’m not going to do it any more. Not a single penny more. I’m not going to put my faith in “Churchianity” or any leader or program or TV show — but in Christ Jesus and His salvation. That’s when I was set free and began to see that God wants and expects more of us than this. And I’m not helping anybody that’s not fully committed to the same thing.

It took centuries to build this monster, so it’s not like it’s going to just turn around overnight. But the times are changing and we’re way overdue for something new. Big bad things are happening – like the tsunami in Asia – and I think more are coming. I don’t want any more time to go by without having said this. I’m sorry for all the time and money I’ve wasted. But Jesus saves. Really. The church itself isn’t even the point. Jesus is the real deal. He lived and He died for my sins and He rose again. He is who He said He was and He cares about me – and you. He’s our only hope. We need places you can go that will only teach Jesus and will not be swayed or tempted or distracted by anything else. God willing, that’s coming.

Please don’t think all Christians are just posers. Some of them really mean it when they say they belong to Christ. The problem is mostly in the West where we’re all comfy and complacent and seem to like it that way. The Christians in China and other places are deadly serious. There’s no room for anything but Jesus when you’re on the run from the government. They are dying every day for their faith and doing crazy hard things because they’re absolutely committed to Christ. These are martyrs. People willing to crucify little pieces of themselves every day to be more like Christ. People willing to set aside everything they want to do what Christ wants. People willing to rot in prison or take a beating or die if that’s what it’s going to take. People that act in pure love and never back down. I’m not worthy to tie their shoes. And there are some like that here, too, and I hope we can get a lot more people to start living that way. It’s way overdue.

If you’re talking to someone and they tell you they’re a Christian, ask them if they’re the kind of Christian that really means it all the time or the kind that just means it on Sunday. The Bible says we’ll know them by their “fruits” – by the faith and purity and love in their deeds and words. When you find one that proves Christ is in them by how much they love you, ask them to tell you all about Jesus. If you know one of those fearless martyrs that speaks nothing but pure, clean, hard Truth – ask lots of questions. Truth is a lot more rare than you would think. But don’t settle for soft, fluffy and comfortable anymore – that’s not in the Bible.

As for me and my house, we’re really sorry. From now on, we’re going to serve the Lord, not “Churchianity.” We’re going to try to call together as many of those martyrs as we can and start doing what Christ wanted. If I run into you someday, please give me a chance to shake your hand and apologize in person. I’m going to try harder from now on, I promise. I think there are lots of others feeling the same way, so don’t be surprised if you start hearing stuff like this more often.

Thanks for your time. I hope it helps. 

Doug Perry –  Liberty, Missouri, USA
www.FellowshipOfTheMartyrs.com

APOLOGY TO THE WORLD

20 thoughts on “APOLOGY TO THE WORLD

  1. Anonymous says:

    I don’t even know where to start with a comment.  So many things in this post I have felt for quite some time now.  I wish there was some way I could take this post and email it to every person on the planet, ESPECIALLY Christians in America.  If we all set our sights on Jesus and quit worrying about all the other garbage we could turn this world upside down for Him.

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  2. Anonymous says:

    Thanks for posting this.
    First I thought you wrote it, then realized your name isn’t Doug Perry (the I’m just a guy at the front threw me too, given your profile pic).

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  3. I think any Christian who is honest sees this, and works at seeking God’s help in ridding themselves of their own forms of hypocrisy. If our hearts are truly seeking God we understand it is in all of us at one level or another.

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  4. I’m not sure if this is refreshing, or disturbing. Maybe it’s disturbing in a refreshing way.I know ONE person who’s Christianity leaves me in awe. The rest just make me want to leave.Thanks for this. I hope you’re feeling better. Stay warm.

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  5. Churchianity – how appropriate – as you know, I talk about the division in my church of religious and spirit-filled – religiosity is the word used to speak of those who practice the study of religions, a worthy endeavour and not connected in any way to living a Christ filled life which I like even better than the word Christian. Yup churchianity sure beats religious as a descriptive. Certainly I know many who call themselves Christians who don’t work at anything. They just arrived and are still as they were when they arrived, spouting scripture, chapter and verse with few if any ‘aha’ moments. You, yourself, the person that you are, the person you have become – you are a living practising example of living a Christ filled life and you continually strive to know Him more, and better, and closer. The tears you shed, those tears of conviction are the tears that were shed at the Cross. My love walks with you each and every day. Momma

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  6. Anonymous says:

    “thanks for sharing all that info!  I am beginning to see your position has much merit. My initial response is unravelling under scrutiny.  I am wondering now, did Jesus really intend for us to be able to attain a state of selflessness? Is such a thing truly possible?”
    I’ve been spending years thinking carefully about these issues.

    That’s sad about Mother Teresa … I didn’t know.  More hypocrisy within the church … but I can understand her drive to press forward with her mission, believing as Catholics do that their ‘works’ are earning their salvation.  Never quite knowing, of course, how many mouths you need to feed or brows you need to wipe before you’ve ‘earned’ that spot in heaven.  😦  Thus, her confession that she knew nothing but emptiness and coldness … very sad.)”
    That’s the thing about popular myths.  99% of the time, they’re just completely taken for granted.
    “I did some research …
    Luke 9:23 (Young’s Literal Translation)
    And He saidunto all, `If any one doth will to come after Me, let him disownhimself, and take up his cross daily, and follow Me.”
    Excellent.
    “Many versions translate ‘disown himself’ as ‘deny’ or ‘forget about’ or ‘turn from’ our selfish ways.  They seem to mean the same thing –  to turn away from what our selfish nature dictates and attempt to rise above it, to do what is abnormal and exceedingly difficult for all of us – to set aside our ego and self-preservation for a few moments and consider someone else! Jesus asks us to disown ourselves, but I’m starting to question His motive.”
    I would propose that there is a subtle, but important difference between “disown himself” and “become selfless.”  Here is the verse in context:
    20and he said to them, `And ye — who do ye say me to be?’ and Peter answering said, `The Christ of God.’
     21And having charged them, he commanded [them] to say this to no one,
     22saying — `It behoveth the Son of Man to suffer many things, and to be rejected by the elders, and chief priests, and scribes, and to be killed, and the third day to be raised.’
     23And he said unto all, `If any one doth will to come after me, let him disown himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow me;
     24for whoever may will to save his life, shall lose it, and whoever may lose his life for my sake, he shall save it;
     25for what is a man profited, having gained the whole world, and having lost or having forfeited himself?
    As far as I can tell, what He’s saying here is that to accept Christ is to reject the evil social structure that was to reject and destroy Him (in order to maintain the deeply flawed status quo).  Therefore, to be true to oneself carries a dire price — rejection by society at large, persecution, and even martyrdom.  So to accept Christ as He truly Is is to disown oneself.  But far from being an act of selflessness, it is the ultimate act of selfish spiritual strength:
    “whoever may lose his life for my sake, he shall save it; for what is a man profited, having gained the whole world, and having lost or having forfeited himself?”
    If you reject truth in fear for the sake of social acceptance, then you reject yourself.
    So in this context, Jesus is not admonishing us to be selfless, but rather the opposite.  Jesus is saying that to be a follower of Him, we must courageous, strong, truthful, and yes, selfish.
    “In preparing my response, I was thinking of people who attain this victory over selfishness – never a consummate victory but a temporary one, small things – a mother’s sacrifice of sleep when her child has a fever …”
    An act of love.  Love is response to the embodiment of personal values, and as such is the most profoundly selfish thing in the world.
    “a man’s sacrifice of his personal safety when faced with an emergency situation …”
    Angry defiance of death.  It’s a rush, let me tell you.
    “taking the broken piece, offering someone else the better one, returning the overpayment … these acts do occur daily.”
    This constitutes a personal decision between goods and friendship/personal integrity (both of which contribute to self-respect (it is a weak and small person who is happier with money than with genuine friendship and self-respect)).
    “However, when we do manage to do some small selfless thing, we immediately desire acknowledgement, making sure everyone knows of our sacrifices and then basking in praise for our selfless acts.” 
    Weakness.  It is lack of self-esteem that compels us to receive recognition from others.
    “In brief, we SUCK!” 
    If your standard of virtue is living a contradiction, we will always suck.  This is a dead end.  Taken to extremes, it can lead to suicide attempts.
    “And I think that is Jesus’ motive for asking us to try to disown ourselves … because we tend to think we’re pretty hot shit and we need to be constantly reminded we’re not.  When we think we can earn His approval, we are way off track!”
    Hubris is weakness, not selfishness.
    “The very essence of following Christ requires that we remind ourselves of our littleness, our failures, our lack of strength – every day.  (for these reveal our need for Him!)”  
    So long as this is reality check — not self-flagellation, this is selfish, good, and healthy.  The focus should be to grow further spiritually, soulishly and physically, not develop thoughts of worthlessness.
    “I think it’s pertinent that He concludes His command to ‘disown ourself’ with ‘follow Me’.  Because when we find ourselves failing to be selfless, and start beating ourselves up, there is One who understands, forgives and offers grace and hope.”
    He doesn’t judge us.  He does tell us where we need to be going, and He shows us the way.
    “Your definition of sin is really interesting.  🙂  I can see that you hold high standards for yourself.” 
    I don’t always live up to them, but I’d like to think that is what I’m growing into.
    “Although with the first definition, you’d first have to define ‘truth’ and ‘reality’, and that could take awhile!”
    Simple.  Physical, concrete reality.  The unseen, “spiritual” reality is simply an aspect of physical reality.  We see only a fraction of what’s out there.  The universe is big enough for God, Satan, Heaven, Hell, and everything else the Bible describes. (see String Theory)
    “It is certainly commendable to refrain from harming others, and to do the most with what we’ve been given.  But I am flipping your definition to see what sin is NOT.   It seems your definition implies that, if we know what it takes to become a better person, and do it – and if we don’t cheat, kill or steal, we are no longer sinning.  How good is ‘good enough’, though?  I think back to Mother Teresa … she didn’t kill or steal and even went as far as trying to save lives and serve the poor … yet she still wasn’t sure God loved her. And this is the problem with any type of ‘performance based’ theology – it simply doesn’t reveal God to us.  It keeps us striving in our own efforts.” 
    Mother Teresa lived by a “rules” based morality (i.e. she considered goodness to be based on living by a set of rituals and rules, without logical evaluation).  I live by a “reason” based morality (i.e. I live by accepting moral principles that follow necessarilly from my worldview, which I constantly reevaluate based on newly discovered information).
    “In my experience, we find God when we fail,  when we fall at His feet in the awareness of our failures. So, you may ‘succeed’ according to your standards, to be a ‘good’ person … but this may not give you the solid hope of eternity, or the deep knowledge that He loves you  … for only failing, admitting our failure and experiencing His grace seems to provide that assurance.  That’s been my experience, at any rate.”
    We all fail.  To be “perfect as our Heavenly Father is perfect” requires infinite spiritual strength.  God does not merely expect us to “do,” He expects us to “be.”  This requires spiritual nourishment (immersion in scripture) and exercise (praise and prayer).  In this way, we constantly develop towards the nature of our Father.  When we die, if we have walked the narrow path of dilligence and strength, our sense of being is excellerated to the speed of light, which is infinity and eternity in existence (achieving light speed requires an infinite amount of energy, and the theory of relativity states that time stops at light speed), and we become what we were meant to be through instant infinite progression.  Otherwise, our souls decay and are destroyed (“fear not him who can destroy the body, but Him Who can destroy both body and soul”).
    “Thanks for the conversation!  I appreciate being corrected so thoughtfully.  :)”
    It’s mutual.  It’s great to have someone address my ideas rather than hide behind maxims and run away.
    I took the liberty of posting our conversation on my site.  I hope you don’t mind.

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  7. @pjcomposer – “So long as this is reality check — not self-flagellation, this is selfish, good, and healthy. The focus should be to grow further spiritually, soulishly and physically, not develop thoughts of worthlessness.”I’d like to expound upon this a little by quoting from a book,”Prayer” by Richard Foster. He is speaking of the discipline of self-examen, inviting the Lord to search our hearts to the depths. It is when, without apology and without defence, we ask to see what is truly in us. If God goes with us in the examen of conscience, it will result in healthful self-knowledge. However, if we are the lone examiners of our heart, a thousand justifications will arise to declare our innocence. We will call ‘evil, good and good, evil’ as Isaiah says. But since God is with us in our search, we are listening more than we are defending. Our petty rationalizations and evasions of responsibility will not tolerate the light of His presence. He will show us what we need to see, when we need to see it.At the other end of the spectrum is our tendency for self-flagellation. If left to our own devices, it is so easy for us to take one good look at who we truly are and declare ourselves unredeemable. Our damaged self-image votes against us, and we begin beating ourselves mercilessly. But with God alongside, we are comforted and protected. He will never allow us to see more than we can handle. He knows that too much introspection can harm more than help. Madam Guyon warns us of ‘depending on the diligence of our own scrutiny rather than on God for the discovery and knowledge of our sin.’ If the examination is solely a self-examination, we will always end up with excessive praise or blame. But under the searchlight of the great Physician we can expect only good (healing, growth, refining) always. :)”When we die, if we have walked the narrow path of diligence and strength, our sense of being is accelerated to the speed of light, which is infinity and eternity in existence (achieving light speed requires an infinite amount of energy, and the theory of relativity states that time stops at light speed), and we become what we were meant to be through instant infinite progression.” Wow! I love this idea. I’ve always sensed that God, having created an incredibly complex universe interwoven and upheld by (scientific) laws and principles, enjoys operating within those principles. I find it interesting that the most intelligent scientists who truly delve into these mysteries, studying them with the keenest minds … usually come out the other side as believers. For what random act could possibly result in the complexity of organisms, and the laws and principles we have discovered? Your description of attaining ‘light speed’ would also explain the bright light experienced by many survivors of near-death experiences, and their sense of being ‘away’ for a period of time when, in fact, it was mere seconds. I do, however, disagree with your concept of spiritual success as having ‘walked the narrow path of diligence and strength’ – for wouldn’t the Pharisees have felt that was exactly what they were doing? Upholding every ceremonial and sacrificial law, tithing, teaching, denying themselves? oops Didn’t mean to throw that controversial term in there. 😉 My point is, that if we somehow believe there is a standard of living which earns us entrance into heaven, aren’t we setting ourselves up as a) judges (for we MUST notice how well we are doing as compared to others), b) hypocrites (for we must certainly fail some days) and most dangerously, c) self-reliant (which takes away the point of Jesus’ death and resurrection).One question – do you believe the following to be attainable? “To be “perfect as our Heavenly Father is perfect” requires infinite spiritual strength”I welcome your comments!

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  8. wow this is really powerful. i would say that if you read it with an open and understanding mind to try to see the heart of the author, it makes perfect sense. i think we should all take a long look at ourselves in the mirror, notice what parts of this letter we resemble, and make the world a better place, one heart at a time, starting with our own. thanks for sharing. have a blessed day!

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  9. Anonymous says:

    “I’d like to expound upon this a little by quoting from a book,”Prayer” by Richard Foster. He is speaking of the discipline of self-examen, inviting the Lord to search our hearts to the depths. It is when, without apology and without defence, we ask to see what is truly in us. If God goes with us in the examen of conscience, it will result in healthful self-knowledge. However, if we are the lone examiners of our heart, a thousand justifications will arise to declare our innocence. We will call ‘evil, good and good, evil’ as Isaiah says. But since God is with us in our search, we are listening more than we are defending. Our petty rationalizations and evasions of responsibility will not tolerate the light of His presence. He will show us what we need to see, when we need to see it.At the other end of the spectrum is our tendency for self-flagellation. If left to our own devices, it is so easy for us to take one good look at who we truly are and declare ourselves unredeemable. Our damaged self-image votes against us, and we begin beating ourselves mercilessly. But with God alongside, we are comforted and protected. He will never allow us to see more than we can handle. He knows that too much introspection can harm more than help. Madam Guyon warns us of ‘depending on the diligence of our own scrutiny rather than on God for the discovery and knowledge of our sin.’ If the examination is solely a self-examination, we will always end up with excessive praise or blame. But under the searchlight of the great Physician we can expect only good (healing, growth, refining) always. :)”
    All I can say about that is that with a life of habitual prayer one is able to see oneself in third person.  I’m not sure exactly how it works yet.  I just know that it does.  The spiritual world — the final frontier.
    “Wow! I love this idea. I’ve always sensed that God, having created an incredibly complex universe interwoven and upheld by (scientific) laws and principles, enjoys operating within those principles. I find it interesting that the most intelligent scientists who truly delve into these mysteries, studying them with the keenest minds … usually come out the other side as believers. For what random act could possibly result in the complexity of organisms, and the laws and principles we have discovered? Your description of attaining ‘light speed’ would also explain the bright light experienced by many survivors of near-death experiences, and their sense of being ‘away’ for a period of time when, in fact, it was mere seconds.”
    Not only that, this view is further supported by the Bible and the Gospel of Thomas.  The New Jerusalem is a City of Light.  Contact with God is always associated with light — Moses’ shining face, the baptism of Jesus, Jesus’ shining transformation when He took select apostles to the mountain, etc.  I first developed this idea right before I picked up the Gospel of Thomas, which completely confirmed the idea.  In it, Jesus describes “the heavens rolling up like a scroll.”  When approaching relativistic speeds, one’s surroundings become compressed (“rolled up” if you will) from the point of view of the observer.
    “I do, however, disagree with your concept of spiritual success as having ‘walked the narrow path of diligence and strength’ – for wouldn’t the Pharisees have felt that was exactly what they were doing? Upholding every ceremonial and sacrificial law, tithing, teaching, denying themselves?”
    The pharisees depended upon rules to regulate their behavior, and proceeded to enforce these rules on the masses at large.  Rules should not be taken in that way, because they are derivatives of principles.  Principles, in turn, are derivatives of an overall worldview.  The Pharisee’s basic failing was that they were unable to revise their rigid worldview when presented with the messiah, and instead clung to rules in order to justify their position.  They also used the rules in order to excercise their will upon the society.  Morality should be personal conviction, not social tyranny.
    “oops Didn’t mean to throw that controversial term in there. ;)”
    Ironically, it would probably be the pharisees who supported the idea.
    “My point is, that if we somehow believe there is a standard of living which earns us entrance into heaven, aren’t we setting ourselves up as a) judges (for we MUST notice how well we are doing as compared to others), b) hypocrites (for we must certainly fail some days) and most dangerously, c) self-reliant (which takes away the point of Jesus’ death and resurrection).”
    Not just a standard of living.  A comprehensive lifestyle that does not create excuses for itself and instead excercises its full potential to achieve what man was meant to be — the actualization of the divine personality.

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  10. I am still trying to get around to everyone who commented my post between my duties, so please pardon the lateness of getting back to you.I truly would appreciate your prayers concerning the vision the Lord has given us concerning this ministry. It is a hugh undertaking, but we are up for the challenge. The enemy has already started the bombardment.. but that is to us a sign we are on the right track. Praise God!Please continue to keep us and this ministry before the Lord and feel free to share with others what we are wanting to do.May the Lord bless you …Phil

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